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New York toll roads and IFTA

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I read on the back of the New York thruway receipt about keeping the receipt for fuel tax credit. However, our person who does the books says that the only state that gives back credit is Mass. Anyone Help???? :

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Don't tell me! Let me guess!
You are a LEASE-OPERATOR? And your employing carrier does not share toll and fuel tax credits fully with it's LEASE-DRIVERS?
Normal scam...

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Debbie,
Got your PM (Imagine a female being innocent enough to PM me ).
Most states that have extensive toll road systems do (or used to) give fuel tax credit back on purchased fuel in that state in lieu of being taxed twice. The NY TRUWAY was one of them.
Some states return unused fuel tax monies (to the permit holder) of over paid fuel tax.
If you are leased, you cannot trust the Permit Clerk of your employing carrier. You must investigate items like this on your own to protect yourself and your investment.
car Tax Forum may be able to give you the answer. I have not kept up with it for years.
If there is a way a carrier can steal from it's LEASE-EMPLOYEES, believe me they will.
Sorry for being short with you, but am still amazed to see it is being allowed to happen.
Please review

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If a person is leased onto a carrier that reimburses tolls is that still an issue?

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Trying to give advice without even having the basic facts is akin to doing brain surgery in the dark (which I suspect is done quite frequently in clinics througout the US)

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Technically no as all of this runs through the CARRIER'S IFTA Permit.
But on the other hand, how many can afford to fuel in NY STATE?
Another consideration is a carrier that has an E-Z PASS, and back charges tolls to the LEASE-OPERATOR. Does that carrier include the discounts given to the card holder (carrier)?
If my testicles were just a little larger, I would have started my own carrier years ago...

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Dearest MOOSEHEAD Casnook,
Believe me, I have the basics. And I am allowed to give advice here. I did not give specific advice, I gave a generalization for the driver to obtain said BASIC FACTS.
YOU are a carrier. Most everything I read from you is PRO-CARRIER. Now why is that?

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IFTA does not have anything to do with tolls... i.e. IFTA reconciles fuel tax only regardless of road tolls levied by individual jurisdictions...
Where you buy your fuel is irrelevant...I buy almost all of my fuel in Ontario yet pay fuel tax in every state I run in accordance with IFTA...that's the whole purpose of IFTA...to ensure taxes are paid to each state regardless of where the fuel was actually purchased.

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Most likely becuase you haven't read everything I've written..I've said lots of pro driver and even pro union things here... I try to maintain a balanced perspective...

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BTW...keeping your Thru-way receipts does makes sense...If you run in NY State you are required to pay ton mile tax on all miles OTHER THAN THRU-WAY MILES. Fuel tax however is based solely on the number of miles run in any given jurisdiction regardless of the actual routing taken..

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I see we have a stuttering problem...
IFTA has everything to do with it. If one buys an excess of fuel in one jurisdiction (let's say due to purchase price), some jurisdictions will give a credit of that amount of fuel tax not used.
Now when you get your stuttering problem fixed and all of your arguments in one pile, please reply. Otherwise, go to the office and see how you can screw your LEASE-DRIVERS this week.

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IFTA reconciles fuel taxes paid among the different jurisdictions...no sh!t Sherlock..But (once again) IFTA has nothing to do with road tolls..

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GAWD get a life, will 'ya?
I am impressed though. You got this one into one post instead of several...

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Bingo,you still pay the fuel tax while also paying the tolls on the NY Thruway system
NY also has highway use tax, funny sticker on front bumper
all miles off the thruway system you pay ton mileage taxes on top of the fuel tax
so it's fuel tax, plus tolls
or
fuel tax, plus ton mile tax
if carrier is charging contractor for the ton mile tax while cruising the toll road,the contractor is being ripped off.
i had to keep an eye on crete about that stuff,seems the young girls had other things on their minds while processing my paperwork and ignored my written routes on the report i sent in,they just let the computer figuire out point A to point B and sometimes didn't seem notice i didn't go the way the computer said
after I brough it to the big guys attention in a drivers meeting that his crew of muffy's in the fuel & road tax department where costing crete about $250,000 a year,wild guess,they decided to buy a tracking program from qualcomm and give muffy and her friends lots of time to worry about their hair and nails.

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Mass doesn't charge fuel taxes for turnpike miles and has no ton mile tax
so in Mass
you either pay the toll or you pay the fuel tax
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