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Gross $95,000 with a Pickup?

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Sounds a little hard to swallow to me.
But here is the link
I sent them an email asking for details. Would love to know how many miles the guys ran to make $95,000 in one year.

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Based on all of the "necessary" accessories that they're touting(including the $10,000 D.O.T. sleeper ), and the $1,000 performance bond that a driver has to put up, it would appear to be a Prime-like operation. It will probably work for them.

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Well the brochure they sent me said 75 CPM a loaded mile. You get your own backhauls, forced dispatch too.
You want to gross $95.000 with a pickup, be prepared to run 150,000 miles or better.
I made $14,000 in 2002 with my pickup and snowplow, in 4 months part time

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I bumped into a guy at the baltimore port who, in addition to hauling rv campers as his main income, also contracts with driveaway companies delivering cars.
So when he's delivering the campers, he's towing them. When he delivers cars, he tows his p/u car behind the cars.
He said he contracted with the drive-away companies to minimize dead head. I thought to myself, this guy is a thinker.
I believe he got .60-65 to deliver cars, fuel on him.
His was, i believe, a 3500 dodge ram.
So, it may be possible to gross 95, but you'd have to run your tail off. Assuming 3000 miles per week, then .65X3000=1950x52=$101,400. So, i guess it would be possible. Practical? You decide.

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We pay as high as $2.50 per loaded mile for a pickup equipped as an escort vehicle.

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About 7 years ago campers paid 1.15 a mile. They reloaded you with a used one for 1.00 for the frame and rebuild.
I bought a new car and all. In like 2 years it dropped down to like .85 a mile.
I have no clue what they are getting now.
It is a suge use item. When folks have the money or tax reasons to upgrade they do. After that you are floaded. When I got into it. We were floaded with folks that were retired and looking at a way to make a few bucks.
Not to sure what it is like now. I bet that most is around. 65 or .70 a mile.

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Gross $95k, net $0.

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.80 cpm loaded out of Indiana plus a .18 fuel surcharge.
Reloads average .60cpm plus .18 cpm fuel surcharge.
40% deadhead runs to get a realod.
Some tolls refunded.
try running 120k paid mlies a year plus another 50k miles DH, and take a look at the numbers after expense's. Thats a 170k mile year. Not going to happen.
no layover or any other pay except small a safty/milage bonus.
Sleeper birth, yes for $10k but still not the same as a birth on a real rig. So food, heat, a/c, ect. I don't know. NO sleeper birth on a pick up is going to be anything like a real rig 70 or so inch unit. They say many guys get the crew cab and sleep in the back seat. Great, your home away from home is a back seat of a pick up. Talk about poor working and living conditions. This makes a big rig seem like a luxury hotel.
The DH miles are a killer and the paultry relaod cpm. Yes this is with a 3/4 or 1 ton pick up, not a road tractor but still hard to make the numbers work at a conservative 12mpg (.18cpm) and another .21cpm for ware/tare/pm, ect. Add all the other cost such as workers comp, all the insurance's and I think this is a poor way to go.

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I've given some serious thought in the last few months to buying a 1ton car and doing some hauling. I've spent alot of time talking to hotshot drivers. From what all have told me pulling RV trailers is the lowest paying job out there. Under a dollar a mile is pretty much fact. Some did say they make a good backhaul if their going the right place. Nothing I would do as a main job.
The guy's that contract hauling boats seem to make good money. They usually only haul 1 fairly good sized boat. About 3 of them told me $1.25 to $1.35 a mile is average.
The guys that seem to do the best have a 3 or 4 car flat trailer, some with an extension over the bed. One told me the bed extension is a add on you can buy later. They can also haul other stuff. Their paid by the car and make a good wage doing it. That would be my preference if I got a pickup.
Almost every hotshot I have talked with were leased on with a broker company. Some allowed the drivers to get their own back hauls and were not forced dispatch.

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Stuffs, Look into hauling the little campers or boats on a trailer.
You can get like 4-5 small pop ups on a nice car type trailer. They are said to pay .50 a mile each. I do not know how true that is.
Seems better then the cars. Lighter. You could always reload with cars, boats or even frames or boat trailers.
Talked to a guy that pulled boat trailers from Elkart In To Joplin Mo. He stacked them on the car and on the trailer. Said he got .10 each per mile. Ran back to back. They unload and load. Maybe worth looking into.
He was hauling like 35 or 40 of them.

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I talked to this outfit for quite some time yesterday. There best driver is running with a 25% dh rate. They told me many of the drivers are really glorified tourists going on vacation.They already own a 3/4 or 1 ton. They take a load if its going thier vacation way and if they dh back home so what the heck !! If they dh back, big deal to them. They made $$ one way. So that would be a 50% dh rate.
That whole thing seems fishy to me.
I know a guy here that has a small fleet of of cars here in eastern pa. He recently purchased 2 dodge 1 tons and 2 flate beb fith wheel trailers. They can load about 14k lbs on the trailer and get 13mpg for local work. Still need a cdl because of the gross lb rating. But it works out great for them lower costs and much easier to manuvier in the city. They pick up loads in the city and bring them back out to the yard in the burbs, load them on big rig there and away they go. Same in reverse.
This would be a good OO local gig if the volume was there. Home every night.

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Let's put it this way, I bumped into a guy in dayton who delivers cars(bobtails)[yes, i approach strange people often because i'm that kind of person] and he says he nets around 35-40K per year just doing that kind of work. And lives in, i believe appleton, wi., if i remember correctly.
He also, had a dodge ram 2500. People like chrysler too much. Don't get a chrysler. More on this later. Gm is the best, but ford is ok too.
35k-40k net is ballpark for any OTR gig right?
So, what you could do is contract to car-driveaway companies as well. In this way you could/should minimize dead-heading.
The whole idea of making a living driving a pickup car sounds interesting. I'd say go for it. But you got to be real resourceful.
a) You might consider installing a custom sleeper. Unless you're under say 5'4", sleeping in the back seat isn't going to cut it.
SUGGESTION: Most pickup trk manufactures sell their cars just as a chassis-cab (no bed/box). So, in this case what you could do is have a custom sleeper installed---better yet make your own. Then custom build your own bed(box)---can be done cheaply with wood and steel crossmembers.
Remember for the sleeper to be legal it has to be at least 75" wide.
b) go diesel. period.

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Thres only one problem with adding a sleeper to pick up. In order to still use the 5th wheel you need an 8 foot bed for the pulling these ouitfits do. So you have to have the frame made longer to keep the box at 8ft.

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We bought a Dodge 3500 Dully did the hotshot thing for about 8 months or so, had a 48ft. trailer (car hauler) with a center track down the middle. Had our car leased on with a company out of Fitzgerald Ga. we hauled 3-5 utilitiy trailers on it. Made 1.45 a mile with 5 cent fuel surcharge (that was 2 1/2 years ago.) Steady work except the year end and Jan. after then it was non stop.
No back loads unless you got them yourself and company agreed to it. If not you DH back for next load. Then they ran all over from Texas to Va. to Fl. more places if you wanted to go. Only work was using wench to get the trailers off your trailer at customers. Loaded at the plant with forklift. Mainly drove all night to get to customers by early morning.
We left because husband said we could make more money in our freightliner.
We did.
Kathy G.

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$1.45 per mile plus .05 fule surcharge with no reload = .75 cpm. And since a pick up don't got a sleeper birth, motel every night on the road !! If you are lucky enough to get a realod, its likly at much less cpm anyway. After all costs, I can barley see haow someone could make a car payment on that let alone a living.
I can see why you went back to a big rig.
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