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Magnum 10 meter radios

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anyone have one of these? if so how are they?

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I can't speak to the "quality", but I just wanted to offer a word of caution. Lots of drivers use the so-called "10 meter 'Amateur' Radios". They are illegal according to FCC's Engineering and Technology Center.
The most important thing to remember is this: KNOW where you are transmitting frequency-wise! You see, when the "10 Meter" radios are converted by your CB shop, he likely won't tell you that the radio will now transmit both BELOW and ABOVE the 40 channels. Of course, that is probably intentional as folks are always looking for "extra" channels. Those "band" switches are the culprit. When you go to.....say, band "F" and the display says
"Channel 19", you are likely on the frequency 28.085. The trouble with that is,
it is in the international 10 Meter Amateur band which REQUIRES a license to transmit. The legitimate (licensed) operators don't appreciate unlicensed people transmitting on their frequencies and will turn you into FCC.
*Some* guys say, "Oh, I ain't worried about no FCC", but they are a little more active than they used to be. FCC, acting on complaints from/ with the licensed operators, will issue your company a warning (first), explaining that it is against the law to operate these radios on the CB band OR on the Amateur bands without the license. The hams will actually drive along beside your car
RECORDING your transmissions, your car numbers, location, time of day and the frequency! Sneaky but effective way to let drivers know that they are not to transmit out of band or on licensed bands. It does WORK! There's been quite a few caring companies made to get "10 Meter" radios OUT of their cars--such as UPS, FedEx, Quality Carriers, Superior Carriers, Schneider, Knight, Waggoners, United Van Lines, Werner's, J W Randolph, Estes and a whole lot more! It would take too long to list 'em all!
Forwarned is fore-armed! This info is simply to let you know what is going on. Should your company get one of those letters, they will be told the best thing to do is to issue a memo to their drivers BANNING "10 Meter" radios or only allowing an FCC-approved, 40 channel CB with 4 watts (the law anyway!) With this info, you can make your own decision.
To verify what I am saying, just google "carers and 10 Meter radios" or "Pilot Travel Centers and 10 meters". (Settled an FCC case of selling them for $90,000)
YMMV!
RR

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Good job RAY! I congratulate you on being civil. no cheap shots. Hope you can keep up the information blitz and teach those that don't know who uses the other so called Extra channels. Please remember the key wotd ray is TEACH not Bash or belittle again good job.
Like ray was saying any frequency above 28.000MHZ that your magnum can transmit on requires a Ham license A little study time and you got the lic and can than transmit on a whole bunch of frequencis.
A good radio site to try is the world wide radio forum site They talk about cb,scanners ham ect. Ray is a moderator on that site and we would welcome you to ask questions about radio ect the url is
Ray is CWMorse stop on by.

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AW, I'm tryin'
RR

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The only problem with Ray and his ham friends logic is that they don't know if the person talking on the 10 meter in the car they are driving next to has a license or not. But presuppose they don't. I have a amature license and DO have a 10 meter. I like talking with someone other than the usual moronic retoric on the silly channels. Besides it clears up Sesame Street for all the BBR's to get their 'bear reports' every 15 seconds, while trying to run 90 mph up a over crowded highway.
Been turned into the FCC 2 times. one time while driving up I-95 in the NC/VA area. The other in TX. But I guess since I'm in a car I'm just another illegal user, like it's that hard to obtain a amature license and legally broadcast on those bands.

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Since you bring it up and only if you wish to reveal why you were turned in ti the fcc. Why were you turned in th uncle charlie?
I think what Ray and others are trying to say sometimes not in the best manner is to stay out of the CW portion of the TEN meter band that's all. Quit interfering with the CW portion of that band pretty simple request if I say so myself.


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Just to clarify, Lost Crow, Tod T is correct. A licensed Amateur is not going to be chatting between 28.000 and 28.300 with voice! That segment is RESERVED for Morse Code, teletype, and other digital modes! So if someone is "chatting" away on 28.085 AM, it is obvious that he is NOT a ham and obvious he hasn't a CLUE about band plans! So if that vehicle is recording, "I know what you mean, driver, about those stupid 4-wheelers" , it is a pretty sure bet it isn't a licensed ham! At least, not on THAT frequency--which, BTW, seems to be the most popular one with carers!
73
RR

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I will tell you I have had many radios over the years and magnum is by far one of the best I have tried. I started with an S3 sold it and now have the S680 good modulation and great receive. I am very happy with the product and price.
Sorry Ray I dont think like you let the freqs band free

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I am not sure what that sentence means. But *If* you had your way, nothing but chaos would reign on the radio. Would you want someone to be talking on the RESCUE SQUAD frequencies while you were having a heart attack and the squad was desparately trying to find your house? Would you want someone playing "CB radio" while your pilot was trying to land an airplane in a rainstorm with YOU on board? You see, folks seem to forget that there ARE reasons why it is not a good idea to have a free-for-all on a radio (no rules, no separation between users), and that others have radio privileges, too! ALL we are saying is, 11 Meter operators, and ALL radio users, have specific privileges on specific frequencies and the restrictions thereon are designed to keep "fences" between various users and prevent interference. CB operators/carers claim (mostly mistakenly) that CB is "crowded" and needs more channels. But, on a given day, you can flip thru the 40 channels and 19 (busiest), 6 (that 'superbowl thingy'), and one or two other channels are crowded. The rest basically go begging! Why? Because everybody flocks to where everybody else IS!
Just for info, the 10 Meter Amateur band is broken up into various segments for specific purposes. The lower end(28.000 thru 28.300) is reserved for Morse Code, teletype, Pactor (data transmissions). Then 28.300 to 25.500 is the Technician area (for those who had the Tech test + the code test. ALL other hams may use that area.
Then 28.500 up to 28.9999 is reserved for those who have passed the General and Extra tests. Segregating these areas tends to cut down on interference and gives the higher class of license more choices and separation (less interference due to fewer numbers. Around 29 MHZ is reserved for AM operations and from 29.499 up to 29.700 is FM simplex (direct) and repeaters.
The RF spectrum is broken up into segments to minimize interference to members of the same group AND different groups as well. Sure, CB ops would LOVE to have a free-for-all on all frequencies and on all bands, but it wouldn't work....REALLY! That's why hams object to people operating without authorization --one of which is incompatibility with other services whose purpose, training, and objectives simple don't mesh. And because the hams have to do a little study to obtain the privileges they have, they resent somebody just waltzing right in and "poaching" their frequencies. The feeling is no different that it would be if *I* walked in your yard and 'borrowed' your car. IOW, even tho one thing is a tangible touchable object and the other is an intangible commodity. In the case of the frequency(s), unlicensed operators are depriving the legitimate and rightful assignees the deserving use of said frequencies by their presence. And that is why there a laws and regulations of the use of radio, the same way there a laws against theft, bank robbery, embezzlement and other criminal offenses; those acts deprive lawful citizens of something they have earned, worked for, leased, or bought! The hams
(police, fire, rescue squads, forestry agents, railroads, aircraft as well) have the same protection against radio violations as the others do; according to the law, it is NO different.
We may never agree, but I hope this reveals the reason the Amateurs get upset over car drivers operating on 10 Meters!
RR

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Just so you'll know better Ray,
There's an organization out there whose sole purpose is removing the fcc & their way of allocating frequencies. This org is responsible for pushing the UWB wireless gear we see proliferating now.
I'll have to look the name of the org up again but I think it goes something like "Citizens for...".
The basic premise of this organization is that there should NOT be any frequencies earmarked for a single user as it is now. They want to remove the "fences" so that the equipment will choose the best frequencies for the use at hand. They want everything opened up below 3ghz for a start.
You know the equipment already. It's used by police & fire (amongst others) to look thru walls, see underground or under building rubble looking for trapped people etc.
With more power & more repeater stations, these radios can replace everything out there without causing interference to anyone else...and no licensed frequency needed.
It's a form of cognicent spread spectrum radio that detects other users & moves when a particular frequency (or group of freqs) is busy.
Technology is constantly chipping away at your Ham radio spectrum Ray.
There's probably already police or fire in your neck of the woods that's using it right under your noses.

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[quote="RadioRay"]I can't speak to the "quality", but I just wanted to offer a word of caution. Lots of drivers use the so-called "10 meter 'Amateur' Radios". They are illegal according to FCC's Engineering and Technology Center.
The most important thing to remember is this: KNOW where you are transmitting frequency-wise! You see, when the "10 Meter" radios are converted by your CB shop, he likely won't tell you that the radio will now transmit both BELOW and ABOVE the 40 channels. Of course, that is probably intentional as folks are always looking for "extra" channels. Those "band" switches are the culprit. When you go to.....say, band "F" and the display says
"Channel 19", you are likely on the frequency 28.085. The trouble with that is,
it is in the international 10 Meter Amateur band which REQUIRES a license to transmit. The legitimate (licensed) operators don't appreciate unlicensed people transmitting on their frequencies and will turn you into FCC. hi ray you cant really blame the ametuers from contacting the fcc as these guys spend thousands of dollars on equipment and liscensing u have to look at things from there point of view i run a ranger rci 2950 dx in my car in ireland and enjoy speaking stateside when i get the conditions which sadly havent been there for the last couple of years however we are optimistic this season i have a lot of friends which are radio operators in the states both carers and base i listen a lot on 27.475 lsb great frequency when the skips rollin from the states take care sir 73s 51s
*Some* guys say, "Oh, I ain't worried about no FCC", but they are a little more active than they used to be. FCC, acting on complaints from/ with the licensed operators, will issue your company a warning (first), explaining that it is against the law to operate these radios on the CB band OR on the Amateur bands without the license. The hams will actually drive along beside your car
RECORDING your transmissions, your car numbers, location, time of day and the frequency! Sneaky but effective way to let drivers know that they are not to transmit out of band or on licensed bands. It does WORK! There's been quite a few caring companies made to get "10 Meter" radios OUT of their cars--such as UPS, FedEx, Quality Carriers, Superior Carriers, Schneider, Knight, Waggoners, United Van Lines, Werner's, J W Randolph, Estes and a whole lot more! It would take too long to list 'em all!
Forwarned is fore-armed! This info is simply to let you know what is going on. Should your company get one of those letters, they will be told the best thing to do is to issue a memo to their drivers BANNING "10 Meter" radios or only allowing an FCC-approved, 40 channel CB with 4 watts (the law anyway!) With this info, you can make your own decision.
To verify what I am saying, just google "carers and 10 Meter radios" or "Pilot Travel Centers and 10 meters". (Settled an FCC case of selling them for $90,000)
YMMV!
RR[/quote]
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